Friday, April 15, 2022

The Public Transcripts 33 ...More from Gordon Brown

Asked about the legal advice he commented that if he had known the uncertainty pertaining to Lord Goldsmith's legal advice then that he did now ... it would not have changed his view unless Lord Goldsmith was prepared to say that his unequivocal advice was that this was not lawful.  A cunning argument that no one else seemed to have thought of. He always has an alibi, or one or two to spare. He also attempted to put some distance between himself and President Bush's antics commenting that "I never subscribed to what you might call the neo-Conservative position that somehow, at the barrel of a gun, overnight, liberty and democracy could be conjured up."


He went onto say that if you look the question of expenditure in Iraq, you have got to start from this one fundamental truth -- that every request that the military commanders made to us for equipment was answered. No request was ever turned down. Unfortunately there is a difference, of course, between being turned down and being ignored. So clearly no one requested any UAVs and if they did they were not turned down ... the requests simply proceeded very slowly. Of course it could be that some things were turned down but if they were then they were turned down for good reason by someone lower down the command chain than Gordon himself who was, as he puts it, purely incharge of the finance of the war (not conducting it). He was forced to later retract his claims that defence spending had always risen.

The Public Transcripts 32 Gordon Brown ...

Gordon Brown's testimony reveals exactly why he later rose to the top of the tree.  Like the late Jim Hacker he relentlessly uses the technique of answering one question with the answer to a different question usually involving his catchphrase "It was the right decision and it was for the right reasons.".  Despite actually living in Number 10 (Tony Blair lived in the flat above Number 11) Mr Brown insisted that he didn't know much about the diplomatic and military preparations for the war because he was as chancellor of the exchequer engrossed in doing complicated long division sums.  If a war crime was committed Gordon was not there.



The Public Transcripts 31 - Lord Goldsmith's Actual Legal Advice


 

Jaques Chirac's speech about not joining in the Iraq War

 


The Public Transcripts 30 Jack Straw said that he didn't wish to invalidate Ms Short's recollection...

Jack Straw said that he didn't wish to invalidate Ms Short's recollection of the cabinet shouting her down but it wasn't his recollection and also the Cabinet wasn't exactly full of "wilting violets".


...and then went on to slag off Jaques Chirac. Taking apart every semantic nuance of his speech ...








 

 


The Public Transcripts 29 Ann Clwyd MP Prime Minister's Special Envoy to Iraq, 2003 - 2009

Ann Clwyd MP Prime Minister's Special Envoy to Iraq, 2003 - 2009 and member of CARDRI ("Committee Against Repression and for Democratic Rights in Iraq") who spent much time before the war drawing attention to the most sadistic aspects of Saddam's regime (culminating in this article) gave some gruesome testimony about the Iraqi penal system.  Here's a typical extact:




Many of the former members of CARDRI went on to have senior positions in the Iraqi Government. Like President Jalal Talabani the current President. 
 


The Public Transcripts 28 Clare Short stated pretty bluntly that Lord Goldsmith had in her view mislead the Cabinet about the surety of the advice he was offering

Clare Short stated pretty bluntly that Lord Goldsmith had in her view mislead the Cabinet about the surety of the advice he was offering on the legality of war and that everyone ignored her.



The Private Transcripts MI6 - SIS2 Part 2 - Alastair Campbell the “unguided missile”

  More redaction before Sir Lawrence Freedman asserts that after UNSCOM withdrew from Iraq in the late 90s MI6 lost most of its sources.. . ...